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a thought I'd like to share, It's all one big mess, a horseshit actually. I use strong words not because I'm angry, it's negative emotion though - I'm sad. As long as the whole lot is not in EPEL it will never work, every once in a while (not rarely) we users hit one or another dep conflict in repos (you must have seen netdcf, etc). I'm sad because smart guys(&gals) cannot establish a close line of collaboration, cannot put it all onto one pile and work with it as one team which would be even better(simpler). I thought it could be just newer openstack-liberty problem but openstack-kilo fails the same way. best