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sorry i was half asleep on that last comment. I created the volume group on /dev/sdb1 when i installed the os so the lv's and vg show up uppon reboot. Being setup this way do i still need the losetup?

root@cinder1:/var/log/cinder# vgdisplay --- Volume group --- VG Name cinder-volumes System ID Format lvm2 Metadata Areas 1 Metadata Sequence No 84 VG Access read/write VG Status resizable MAX LV 0 Cur LV 1 Open LV 0 Max PV 0 Cur PV 1 Act PV 1 VG Size 4.45 TiB PE Size 4.00 MiB Total PE 1166679 Alloc PE / Size 2560 / 10.00 GiB Free PE / Size 1164119 / 4.44 TiB VG UUID zNuWxh-IamW-EHlb-m8ZU-TK8p-1Yvw-A2RxkU

root@cinder1:/var/log/cinder# lvdisplay --- Logical volume --- LV Name /dev/cinder-volumes/volume-299187cc-e7b8-49a0-a0d1-f0e72adb80ec VG Name cinder-volumes LV UUID fYRctf-2C4q-XRwD-PSEA-g0Fv-KPEK-YmdYSa LV Write Access read/write LV Status available # open 0 LV Size 10.00 GiB Current LE 2560 Segments 1 Allocation inherit Read ahead sectors auto - currently set to 256 Block device 252:0