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i was able to move past this problem (i think) by changing the ports in haproxy.cfg so they do not conflict with httpd and other services. I am still miles away from getting it to work. I am missing some concepts on HA for sure. I have lots of uncertainty. Like:
Are the services that are on the non-active nodes supposed to be in the started state when non-active, or do they get started when HA makes it the active node.
How can they start if the VIP is not available until it becomes an active node.